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The Tikvah Podcast

Norman Podhoretz - Reflections of a Jewish Neoconservative

The Tikvah Podcast

Tikvah

Judaism, Politics, Religion & Spirituality, News

4.6620 Ratings

🗓️ 19 May 2014

⏱️ 58 minutes

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Summary

As part of the advanced institute on "Liberalism, Conservatism, and the Jews," Tikvah hosted the legendary editor of Commentary, Norman Podhoretz. Podhoretz has been a partisan of the left, the right, and, most of all, the Jews. In an interview with Tikvah's executive director Eric Cohen, Podhoretz discussed his life's work and his ideological transformation. He reflects on his early education and the conflict between his low-brow immigrant Judaism and his high-brow training under Lionel Trilling. He discusses the early days of Commentary, when it was ambivalent about Zionism and part of the anti-communist left. He explains what turned Commentary away from the left, and what kind of foreign policy vision it offered the nascent neoconservative movement. And what about Podhoretz himself? Famously frank and wide-ranging, Podhoretz spends the last half of the event commenting on theology, the American Jewish scene, Radical Islam, classical music, and Shakespeare.

Filming took place on May 19, 2014.

 

Transcript

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0:00.0

So maybe to start, can you tell us a bit about the Jewish world, the Jewish life of your youth,

0:04.6

and how that took shape in your own life as you came of age?

0:09.1

Well, my parents were typical immigrants from Eastern Europe,

0:17.1

which is to say they were lapsed Orthodox.

0:21.6

If they were anything, they were orthodox,

0:24.1

but they were not observance kept getting attenuated as time went on.

0:29.9

I had grandparents who were chereidim avant la letter.

0:35.1

That is the word did not even exist.

0:38.3

And my maternal grandfather always thought that 613 commandments were not enough.

0:45.4

He used to make new ones up, which he devoutly believed were in the Talmud, you know,

0:50.8

in the Shulhan Arroch.

0:53.8

So, I mean, I was soaked. Yiddish was my first language.

0:58.6

I was born in Brooklyn, but I grew up as a little kid bilingually, and I think I knew Yiddish

1:07.0

better than English for the first few years of my life. The story has told to me that I was playing on the street when I was about two, three years old.

1:17.6

Speaking Yiddish, and some adults observed,

1:22.6

who was that Greenhorn, who was that Greenhorn kid.

1:31.1

So I was taken for an immigrant myself.

1:36.0

I then, I was sent, again, as it was very characteristic,

1:46.9

the Jewish kids in that area either was sent to Heider or to a Yeshiva or to nothing.

1:55.7

And my father successfully resisted the pressures of his father-in-law to send me to a Yeshiva,

1:58.0

for which I have been eternally grateful.

2:05.2

But I did go faithfully to a Heater, which was, I don't even remember.

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