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Uncanny Valley | WIRED

Nobody’s Driving That Car!

Uncanny Valley | WIRED

WIRED

Technology

4.1575 Ratings

🗓️ 10 August 2023

⏱️ 36 minutes

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Summary

Tech companies have been touting self-driving cars as the future of transportation for over a decade now. Companies like Cruise, Waymo, and Zoox all have active programs testing their autonomous vehicles in US cities like San Francisco, Phoenix, and Austin. Their cars have run endless loops around town to train their algorithms, zipping along city streets—and occasionally blocking them. While the tech has clearly gotten better and Waymo and Cruise now have permission to operate fully autonomously in California, the computer-powered taxis have also driven up some controversy with local governments, safety officials, city residents, and drivers.

This week on Gadget Lab, WIRED transportation writer Aarian Marshall joins us to talk about how a vote this week in California will affect robotaxi adoption in cities across the country, and what happens when our roadways are inundated with robots.

Show Notes:

Read Aarian’s story about how ride-hailing service drivers are responding to self-driving taxis. Read all of WIRED’s coverage of autonomous vehicles.

Recommendations:

Aarian recommends calling company customer support and trying to talk to a human sometimes. Mike recommends listening to comedy albums on streaming services. Lauren recommends her other podcast Have a Nice Future, particularly the episode with the artist Grimes.

Aarian Marshall can be found on Twitter @AarianMarshall. Lauren Goode is @LaurenGoode. Michael Calore is @snackfight. Bling the main hotline at @GadgetLab. The show is produced by Boone Ashworth (@booneashworth). Our theme music is by Solar Keys.

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Mike.

0:01.2

Lauren.

0:01.9

How often would you say that you see a car without a driver just cruising around San Francisco these days?

0:08.4

I would say at least a dozen a day.

0:11.7

I usually commute by bike and I have a three mile commute to the office and a three mile commute home.

0:17.3

This morning I counted because I knew we were talking about this today.

0:20.5

I didn't know you're going to ask this question, but I counted five. Okay. I counted three yesterday in about a

0:26.8

15-minute drive home. That's a lot. And you're probably seeing more than me because you are

0:31.0

traveling on bike. Yeah, probably. And also, I live in a part of town where they seem to be everywhere.

0:36.7

And what do you think when you see them?

0:38.3

Honestly, I don't mind them.

0:40.3

They're very cautious.

0:41.3

They're very polite.

0:42.3

They don't yell at me and they're not looking at their phone.

0:46.3

I feel okay about them.

0:49.3

How do you feel?

0:51.3

Honestly, it's a little weird, but I hear Tracy Chapman's fast car in my head when I see

0:59.0

them.

1:00.0

Like it's almost as though I'm constructing a TikTok video as I'm driving, but I don't want

1:05.5

to be on TikTok while I'm driving, so I'm not actually doing that.

1:08.3

But I'm putting together this montage in my head of all of the

1:10.9

self-driving cars that I've seen in recent history. And I just keep thinking about that song.

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