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NOBODY KNOWS ANYTHING: Sex, Drugs, and Public Radio

California Love

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🗓️ 1 April 2025

⏱️ 76 minutes

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Summary

The troubled childhood, the meteoric rise to fame, the tragic fall… We all know the basic outline of a music biopic, so how hard can it be to write one? Find out (along with our guests!) in this episode of NOBODY KNOWS ANYTHING.

Guests: Writer/director Dana Ledoux Miller ("Moana 2"); actor Jason Ritter ("Matlock"); and writer Joshua Zetumer ("Say Nothing").

NOBODY KNOWS ANYTHING is a production of The Black List and LAist Studios, in partnership with The Ankler. This episode is presented by FX.

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0:00.0

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0:05.1

Join them April 12th at Exposition Park for SoCal's largest celebration of science, math, creativity, and fun.

0:12.3

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0:18.3

quickly reminded that emergencies are very real in

0:21.3

Southern California. And having an emergency kit on hand is an absolute necessity. Now, if you don't

0:26.8

have one, the LA company Preppy is giving away free emergency kits with any purchase over $100.

0:33.2

Visit preppy.com. That's Preppy, P-R-E-P-P-I-com slash LAist.

0:40.7

Music biopics. That's biopics, not biopics. To be clear, I want to settle that debate right now.

0:47.3

They get a lot of flack as cliche-ridden money grabs that add nothing to the cinematic landscape.

0:53.1

But how else could we learn all about the obstacles that one legendary musician or band overcame to become the icon we know them as now? You know that one musician, whichever one you're thinking about, that's who I'm talking about. You don't make decisions for the band. I have this song playing over and over in my head. I just don't have the words of the melody.

1:11.9

Are you high again? It's the devil's music. I can feel it. Baby, baby, baby, baby, baby.

1:19.4

Welcome to Nobody Knows Anything, the show that puts the cute in film executive. This episode is presented by FX. I'm your host, Franklin Leonard, and we've got some

1:28.7

special guests joining us today. First up, we've got Joshua Zedimer, writer and creator of the

1:33.9

critically acclaimed FX miniseries, saying nothing, now streaming in its entirety on Hulu. Joshua is,

1:40.4

I also might add a writer with multiple scripts that were very high on early annual blacklist.

1:45.7

Hello, Joshua. Welcome. Hi, and thank you for making my career when I was a young man.

1:50.4

The script made the career, we just hype-manned it, which is sort of what we do. We also have

1:56.3

Dana Ludu Miller, co-writer and co-director of the Disney mega hit, a movie that needs no additional

2:01.6

hype personing.

2:03.4

Moana 2.

2:04.2

You are also the writer and supervising producer on the criminally underrated show Lodge 49.

2:08.9

Welcome, Dana.

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