I call it kind of an elephant in the room hiding in plain sight that nobody seems to have noticed.

All the major climate models are missing one key variable, says John Cloucere, winner of

the 2022 Nobel Prize in Physics. He was one of the two Nobel laureates to sign a declaration

by a global coalition of scientists stating there is no climate emergency.

This is clearly the most important mechanism that controls the climate, controls the

temperature of the earth, and stabilizes it very powerfully and very dramatically.

In this episode, Cloucere breaks down how clouds and variations in cloud cover profoundly

impact the climate. This is American Thought Leaders, and I'm Yanyu Kelly.

Dr. John Cloucere, such a pleasure to have you on American Thought Leaders.

Okay, thank you.

Well, Dr. Cloucere, first of all, congratulations on winning the 2022 Nobel Prize for Physics in

this realm, which I've always been absolutely fascinated with, quantum entanglement, spooky

action as a distance as it has been called. But you have actually been in the news recently

over another issue, which is climate change, and I'm just very, very curious. Before we

dive into this, how is it that you became involved in this? How is it that you got interested

in this?

Well, I have been interested in climate science for most of its history, including

back to Al Gore's original movie and the light, and that I have been rather distressed

about the poor quality of the science as being done. In fact, in 2010, there were any

number of requests for comments by the American Physical Society, which I responded to, and

all of which were totally ignored. And then when I was in Stockholm and talking to the

prize committee who awarded this on my prize in physics, I pointed out to them that I disagreed

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