No to Biden, No to Trump: Insights From Swing-State Voters

Deconstructed

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🗓️ 5 April 2024

⏱️ 51 minutes

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A recent Gallup poll found that 29 percent of respondents said neither Donald Trump nor Joe Biden are fit for the job. To unpack how voters are feeling about the two candidates, this week on Deconstructed, Ryan Grim is joined by Anat Shenker-Osorio, a returning guest, messaging expert, and host of the podcast “Words to Win By.” Together they dig into what she's been hearing from voters in swing states disillusioned by both parties and the whole electoral process.

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0:00.0	Welcome to deconstruct it. I'm Ryan Grimm. The last two presidential elections have been decided not by the traditional swing voters we've come to think of in politics, by what political consultants now refer to as
0:14.2	double-haters. A double-hater hates both candidates running and is faced with a
0:19.6	choice of picking between them, sitting it out, or voting third party.
0:24.0	In the last two elections, the double haters who showed up to vote swung the election.
0:28.7	In 2016, double haters broke for Trump.
0:32.0	It turned out they hated Hillary Clinton a bit more.
0:34.8	In 2020, they had some regrets and less hostility toward the Democratic candidate.
0:40.0	The double haters, that election election broke for Joe Biden.
0:43.2	But voters are stunned to find themselves facing
0:47.1	the same stale choice yet again.
0:50.0	As Bo Burnham puts it, They're really gonna make me vote for Joe Biden.
0:58.0	A recent Gallup poll found that 29% said that neither Trump nor Biden are fit for the job. Today we're going to get
1:05.7	into the heads of the double haters and will be guided on that tour by Anach Shankarasorio,
1:10.3	a return guest on the program. She's been part of a team running focus groups in key swing states.
1:16.0	Here's how a group of Latino voters in Nevada, for instance,
1:19.0	responded to a question about Biden.
1:21.0	Joe Biden, first thing's popping into our mind. Joe Biden. Joe Biden.
1:23.0	Joe Biden.
1:24.0	See now.
1:25.0	See now.
1:26.0	I hope.
1:27.0	Pop it.
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