'No Superman': Brown student recounts fleeing shooter

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🗓️ 15 December 2025

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A gunman killed two students and injured nine others in a Brown University classroom Saturday afternoon. The suspect remains at large. Brown student Ref Bari was in the building where the shooting happened. He shares his story.

Then, officials say that father and son gunmen killed at least 15 people at a Hanukkah celebration on Sydney's Bondi Beach in Australia. We hear from the Anti-Defamation League's Marina Rosenberg about the rise in antisemitism in Australia.

And, Rob Reiner and his wife, Michele Reiner, were found dead in their home on Sunday. Reiner talked about his work several times on Here & Now. We revisit those conversations.

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0:00.0	Support for here and now anytime comes from MathWorks, creator of MATLAB and Simulink software for technical computing and model-based design.
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0:17.0	WBUR Podcasts, Boston.
0:21.6	It's like there's like no Superman, like who's going to save the day.
0:27.6	It's you and your friends.
0:29.6	If I had like 60 seconds of warning, I could have like run into the classroom and just yelled something.
0:34.6	A Brown University student recounts the mass shooting on campus.
0:42.3	It's Monday, December 15th, and this is here and now anytime from NPR and WBOR.
0:47.5	I'm Chris Bentley.
0:51.0	Today on the show, following up on a weekend of tragedies, we'll get the latest on the mass shootings in Australia and Rhode Island, as well as an update on the deaths of Hollywood royalty, Rob Reiner, and Michelle Singer.
1:04.4	We'll hear how those acts of violence are reverberating around the world.
1:08.4	What we've seen in the last 24 hours ago was the worst of humanity in a terrorist act,
1:21.5	but we also saw an example of the best of humanity in Ahmed El Armid.
1:28.1	And in about 15 minutes, we'll listen back to some of here and now's past interviews with Rob Reiner.
1:35.4	But first, police in Providence, Rhode Island, are once again searching for the gunmen who killed two students and injured nine others in a classroom at Brown University on Saturday.
1:46.8	They had detained a man who was a person of interest, but then released him.
1:51.5	So the gunman is still at large.
1:54.5	Classes and exams for the rest of the semester have been canceled, and school officials have said students can start their winter break early.
2:02.7	Robin Young spoke earlier with Ref Bari, a physics graduate student at Brown, who was inside
2:08.9	the building when the shooting started.
2:11.5	Ref, we thank you so much for being with us. How are you doing?
2:15.5	I'm doing okay, Robin. Thank you for having me on.
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