You know, the Israeli occupation is still an illegal occupation,

and the further aggression is an act of aggression,

and also the destruction of the Syrian army,

reveals that Israel is an enemy of Syrians in

regardless of the regime that it's in, basically.

That's kind of at the basic level of a national interest.

We don't know what Syrians want in terms of politics and economics,

but we need a process for that to emerge. So the second level of national interest is that no one can come in a point and dictate what

the constitution is going to be, what the form of rule is going to be arbitrarily and unilaterally

without a process that at least at the very minimal tries to be inclusive in a way that different Syrians can

feel themselves represented, right? So that's a national interest. No one has a national interest

in unilateral declarations of what the future of Syria is going to be.

Hello everybody and welcome back to another episode of the Magdisi Street podcast.

We're very happy today to have with us to talk about Syria, what's going on in Syria today, and kind of to properly contextualize it and provide some of the political economy as well, the war economy and other aspects of what's going on in Syria today to have Professor Omar Dahi with us.

He's a professor of economics at Hampshire College in the United States.

He's also the founding director of the project, which is called Security in Context,

which is a research network on peace, conflict, and international affairs.

And I encourage everybody to look that up online.

There's a lot of publications and a lot of interesting policy papers that deals globally

and in the global south, but also, of course, in the Middle East and Syria as well.

He's very widely published in both academic and policy outlets, and he combines this.

He's written a number of books and articles that deal with.

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