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No More Souters - Revisited

More Perfect

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4.814.7K Ratings

🗓️ 9 May 2025

⏱️ 49 minutes

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Summary

Justice David Souter has died. Souter was one of the most private, low-profile justices ever to have served on the Supreme Court. He rarely gave interviews or speeches. Yet his tenure was anything but low profile. Deemed a “home run” nominee by Republicans, Souter defied partisan expectations on the bench and ultimately ceded his seat to a Democratic president. As we reflect on his legacy, we wanted to share this episode again. Produced two years ago, this episode tells the story of how “No More Souters” became a rallying cry for Republicans and inspired a backlash that would change the Court forever.

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0:00.0

Hi, this is Gabrielle Burbe. I'm one of the producers who helped make more perfect. And today,

0:05.7

we got the news that Justice David Souter died. Justice Souter was known for being a deeply private

0:12.5

and reserved justice, but his time on the court had a big impact on our country and how we

0:19.7

choose Supreme Court justices now. Today, we've been

0:24.1

thinking about that legacy. More Perfix host, Julia Longoria and I made an episode about

0:30.7

Justice Souter a couple years back, so we wanted to share that episode again for you all.

0:36.9

Here's the show.

0:54.0

So, where do we start?

0:57.6

Why don't you tell me who you are and what you do?

1:01.4

Okay, so my name is Ashley Lopez and I'm a political correspondent for NPR.

1:07.3

But you are here today.

1:09.0

Yeah.

1:10.2

Because of your, do we want to call it an obsession?

1:14.0

You know what? I guess obsession is maybe a little bit too much, but it's not far. It's not far.

1:21.4

I've just been very intrigued for many years by David Suter.

1:26.9

Justice, David Suter has informed the White House he will retire at the end of a Supreme Court

1:31.3

term in June.

1:32.6

Justice David Suter retired in 2009 when Barack Obama was president.

1:38.6

First, I thought he was interesting because he was appointed by a Republican and was

1:44.0

seating his seat to a Democratic

1:45.6

president. Like, that's a kind of a weird thing. Either you die in the seat or you hand it over

1:51.5

to the party that put you into the seat. Souter is perhaps best known as one of the most surprising

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