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🗓️ 18 April 2025
⏱️ 52 minutes
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In this episode of The Next Level Health & Fitness Podcast, I’m joined by someone who’s been a mentor and friend to me for over six years — Jason Phillips. Jason is the founder of NCI (Nutritional Coaching Institute), a powerhouse in the coaching and certification space.
We dove deep into the current state of the coaching industry, where it’s heading, and how to actually stand out in a saturated space. One of the biggest topics we covered was Jason’s bold move to buy back NCI after selling it last year — the behind-the-scenes story, the lessons he learned, and what led him to step back in as owner.
Jason also dropped an exclusive scholarship opportunity for listeners looking to level up their coaching skills through NCI — a limited-time chance to join at a massive discount.
We also hit on the mindset piece — specifically, how clients can develop more patience in their journey and why that’s the game-changer when it comes to long-term results.
This one’s packed with wisdom, business insights, and real talk.
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Episode Timestamps
00:00 Covid's Impact: Rise of Online Coaching
04:38 Prime Opportunity for Dedicated Coaches
09:01 Coaching: Connection Beyond Communication
13:25 Respecting Client Investment and Experience
15:32 Jason: Versatile Business Coach
20:25 Active Shooter Alert at FSU
22:24 Business Sale Driven by Burnout
26:04 "NCI: Execution & Support Focused"
30:03 "Proven Success in Gym Growth"
31:12 "Coaching: Business vs. Transaction"
34:15 "Coaches' Success Tied to Growth"
37:56 Evolving Expertise: Learning from the Past
41:45 Rethink Business Education Priorities
45:08 "Building a Genuine Coaching Community"
48:55 "Connection and Generosity"
51:27 "Subscribe and Share, Please"
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0:00.0 | What's up, everybody? This is Brad Jensen and you are listening to the Next Level podcast. |
0:23.5 | Welcome back to the next level podcast. |
0:28.0 | Today I'm joined by a special guest, special in many ways. |
0:28.6 | I'm just kidding. |
0:33.8 | Actually, one of my mentors, business coach, Jason Phillips, |
0:37.3 | Jason has been a fixture in the industry, |
0:40.2 | the nutrition coaching industry for years and years and years. And we actually first worked together in 2019 and he helped scale our business to |
0:45.9 | seven figures and then linked back up about a year ago when I had the pleasure of speaking at |
0:52.1 | coaching con and And he, |
0:56.6 | business coach, |
0:59.6 | was a nutrition coach extraordinaire and created what, |
1:00.5 | in my humble opinion, |
1:04.6 | the best nutrition certification out there, |
1:06.6 | which we can talk about the journey of that. |
1:06.9 | So Jason, |
1:07.5 | welcome to show. |
1:09.3 | Thank you, brother. |
1:10.7 | It's good to be back. And I think the only thing special |
1:12.0 | about me is special education. That's what I meant. I'll make it wildly politically incorrect for |
1:20.4 | your followers. You can allude to it. I'll just be very direct about it. But yeah, there's |
1:24.2 | there's absolutely nothing special about me, man yeah it's uh jason was i think on the |
1:31.7 | first 25 episodes of the podcast he was on two or three of them so if you uh you're a long time |
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