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The Dave Chang Show

Nikola Jokic and Spotting Latent Talent With Kevin O’Connor, Plus Learning to Live With Blindness With Andrew Leland

The Dave Chang Show

The Ringer

Society & Culture, Arts, Food

4.88.7K Ratings

🗓️ 22 June 2023

⏱️ 84 minutes

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Summary

It’s a double-guest extravaganza as The Ringer senior staff writer Kevin O’Connor joins Dave and Chris to talk about Nikola Jokic’s recent NBA championship win, and how to identify talent. Later, writer (and Chris’s first boss out of college!) Andrew Leland joins the pod to talk about his experience with retinitis pigmentosa and common misconceptions about blind people. Host: Dave Chang and Chris Ying Guest: Kevin O'Connor and Andrew Leland Producer: Victoria Valencia, Cory McConnell, Gabi Marler, Euno Lee Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

We have two guests today. It has been a while since we've had a duplay.

0:05.4

We have the great senior editor, senior staff writer, whatever.

0:11.3

We've had a good day. The NBA dude, Kevin O'Connor.

0:16.0

It might be interesting to listen to the first time he was on a podcast. This 2018-2019

0:21.5

and he just so happened to be in the, we share the same studio and Cory was like,

0:26.7

Kevin O'Connor's here.

0:28.7

And I was like, oh, now he's on the show.

0:30.5

Now he's on the show.

0:33.4

But fair warning, we're going to get in depth about basketball.

0:37.8

Yes, the Denver Nuggets just won, but we're going to talk about Nikola Yokech,

0:43.6

the center, the arguably the best player in the world right now.

0:49.2

And again, if you are one of those individuals, I don't give a shit about sports. I was like,

0:53.2

well, you should in the sense that it should give you hope for different things in culture.

0:59.7

And that's why I feel like it's so amazing. It is like on the level of

1:07.0

M&M or even more ridiculous. He was like, if you wanted to, if we wanted to be like BuzzFeed

1:14.1

or Daily Mail or some other thing, we were like,

1:18.2

Nikola Yokech, the Vincent Van Gogh of the NBA.

1:25.7

Yes, you know, some, some ridiculous, but you know, the fact that you would have to come up with

1:30.9

something ridiculous like that to sort of describe what is happening.

1:34.9

Yeah, it tells you how special the mind is. How special it is.

1:37.6

Then we're going to get in conversation with a Kings old boss, Andrew Leland, author of a new memoir

1:44.1

called The Country of the Blind about losing a site. We make some proclamations and predictions about

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