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Tonight on the programme, Shagall, the modern master's early works exhibited at Tate Liverpool.

What to do when the money runs out?

A leading banker and a critic of our Gollum's quest for growth will be arguing it out.

And Cornelia Parker, the artist who's worked with bombs and bullets, will be talking to me about her new exhibition and working with a puddle. It was created by me, the puddle was. I poured this coal-cure rubber, a slow-setting rubber, onto the street, and the street is cobbled. And so when I poured the liquid on the street, it found its own way through the paving cracks.

And then when it was set, I pulled it up. And you just pull it off, you peed it off. Yeah, so this is literally the puddle. And what I've done is cast it in black bronze. So this black stain is, which has taken on the contours of the street, is now an object. and I quite like the idea you can trip over a puddle now.

Cornelia Parker, more from her about her very grounded new art. towards the street is now an object. And I quite like the idea you can trip over a puddle now.

Cornelia Parker, more from her about her very grounded new art later on. But first, Mark Shagal was the Russian modernist, whose exuberant works ranged over decades, from folklore to spiritual

references, flirtations with the supernatural, and attempts to blend the excitement of urban life in the 20th century with folk memories and myths.

You can't really mistake a Chagall for something else.

His works bear witness to the great movements he lived through, surrealism, fovism, cubism,

and the applied arts of stained glass and theatre scenery.

But they always bear a unique stamp. So what shaped

Mark Chagall and how did his early critical reception as an expressionist guide his development?

A new exhibition at Tate Liverpool exhibits his early work and it focuses on the period between

1911 and 1922 in both Russia and Paris.

The critic Alexandra Harris has been to see the show, and she joins me now.

Alexandra, this is a very time-limited exhibition.

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