Welcome back to the home of the oxymoron. Evil genius. He asked the newspaper to print his obituary early so he'd enjoy it. That's like hiding at your own funeral. Yeah, it's a big, great gig. I'm Russell Kane. Join me to weigh in on whether the biggest players in history are more evil or genius. Becoming that rich, I'd say that at some level of genius. It also helps

that it's a long time ago, right? It's like the podcast version of telling your kids the ice cream

van plays music when it's out of ice cream. Listen to evil genius on BBC sounds.

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On tonight's programme, an interview with the artist Bill Viola, who fell into a lake when he was six years old, saw the most beautiful world down there and has always wanted to return.

And David Lindsay's satire of the three estates are work which is to Scotland,

what Henry V is to England, a barometer of the political weather.

We discuss as the whole play, it's around 330 minutes long,

is performed for the first time in almost 500 years,

plus the Iraq War and the view from the usually elusive former U.S. Vice President Dick Cheney.

When Prime Minister Blair showed up, he was asking us to do a second resolution.

And most of us thought that was not a good idea.

The nation expected we were going to act,

the Congress had already voted and so forth,

and we go back to the UN for another resolution.

It looked like a sign of weakness.

Dick Cheney, a moment from a new three-part television documentary series,

The Iraq War.

Later we find out which question would have made Dick Cheney exit the interview.

But first, Bill Viola, the Rembrandt of the Video Age, according to one critic.

His earliest work, The Space Between the Teeth, is a film of himself screaming.

A more recent work has portraits of a series of people out of which gallons of water pour.

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