Nico Perrino: What the Trump-Musk Alliance Means for Free Speech
The Reason Interview With Nick Gillespie
The Reason Interview With Nick Gillespie
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🗓️ 5 February 2025
⏱️ 63 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | This is The Reason Interview with Nick Gillespie. Please rate and review and subscribe to this podcast |
| 0:06.1 | at reason.com, Apple, Spotify, YouTube, or wherever you're finding it. And share it with people |
| 0:12.6 | you think might find it engaging, interesting, provocative, or even aggravated. My guest today |
| 0:19.2 | is Nico Perino. He's an executive vice president at Fire, |
| 0:23.1 | the foundation for individual rights and expression. He's also the director of the excellent |
| 0:27.8 | 2020 documentary, The Mighty Ira, about the longtime head of the ACLU Ira Glasser. And he's |
| 0:35.7 | the author of a forthcoming book in 2026 on the triumph of civil |
| 0:40.2 | libertariat. NICO is also host of the popular podcast, so to speak, which builds itself as an |
| 0:47.5 | uncensored look at the world of free expression through the law, philosophy, and stories that |
| 0:53.5 | define your right to free speech. |
| 0:56.0 | I talk with him about the Biden administration's rotten record on speech, |
| 1:01.0 | his hopes and fears for Donald Trump's second term, |
| 1:04.0 | and why he worries that when it comes to speech, |
| 1:07.0 | Elon Musk is, quote, |
| 1:09.0 | suffering from the curse of power, which is censorship, close quote. |
| 1:14.1 | Here is the reason interview with Nika Perino. |
| 1:22.7 | Nika Perino of fire. Thanks for talking to reason. |
| 1:27.1 | Nick, always happy to be here. You told Spin |
| 1:31.6 | magazine a couple years ago in a great interview that, and I'm quoting you here, that government |
| 1:37.1 | is always the greatest threat to free speech. With that as a starting point, let's do a quick |
| 1:44.0 | check in on the Biden administration or federal and local and state governments over the past four years, which seemed like we were getting in an increasingly censorious or sensorial. |
| 1:57.0 | I'm never sure of which adjective to use era. |
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