I'm John Bachelord. This is the New World Order. I'm John Bachelord. This is the New World

Report. And I'm with Joseph Umar, Executive Director of Secure Free Society, and Ernesto

Arrujo, former Foreign Minister of the Republic of Brazil. Venezuela, Ernesto, there's news

and it's confusing. The U.S. is allowing sanctions to be lifted if and their conditions

here. For elections in 2024 with Venezuela, the sanctions have to do with the oil industry

in Venezuela. But at the same time, we have these headlines. Russia expects Venezuela's

endured to visit his relations deep in, and Venezuela's Madura speaks to a Markovano

boss condemning Israel's actions in Gaza. What we have here is Maduro acting as a member

of the adversaries of the United States in Europe and the United States in the Middle

East. At the same time, the U.S. is offering relief sanctions relief to Venezuela. How do

you conclude this will move Venezuela? Will this change their conduct? Because one aspect

of Maduro's regime is up to more than 7 million people have fled the country, overwhelming

the generosity of other countries. What will Maduro do now that he's having sanctions

lifted? Get worse or get better? Definitely get worse. Unfortunately, John, you look

at Maduro and you ask that famous question, would you buy a used car from that man? I don't

think so. I don't think anyone would. So would you buy his commitment to democracy in Venezuela

and give him more money, more freedom of action, more diplomatic cloud? I don't think that's

a good way to go. I think sanctions and a lot of pressure, much more pressure should be in place

until the Maduro delivers what he has to to step out of power and organize decent elections

in Venezuela without himself and his thanks in power. So one important question would they let

Maria Corina Machado, who was the best politician in Venezuela, maybe the most popular run for

election next year. I think that's a key issue. I think they're throwing Maria Corina under the

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