I'm John Bachelors with my good colleagues Joseph U Meyer.

He is Executive Director Skilfri Society.

He's in Medi in Colombia, and Ernesto Arrujo, former Foreign Minister of the Republic of Brazil,

who was a native of Rio Grande du Sol.

He was taught me that this is the southernmost state of Brazil, heavily agriculture, producing

the rice that Brazil and the world eat, and yet the rains came and the rivers overflowed

because of a poor preparation Ernesto has instructed me.

And now as the water recedes somewhat, we realize that there are thousands, tens of thousands dishomed.

The damage to the infrastructure is profound.

And Ernesto, I come to you, so many of these dishomed are being presented as immigrants from other countries in South America.

This points up to the fact that Brazil has been a destination for migrants seeking a better life. What is the policy of the D Silva administration?

What was the policy of your administration about people entering Brazil without documentation and just sort of living hand-the-mouth,

especially in agricultural regions?

Well, John, the situation has been basically concentrated on people from Venezuela and from Haiti for 15 years already more or less

Venezuela a little bit less with all the repression and

Venezuela of course people started to leave and well they leave normally

through the border with northern Brazil but it's a more, let's say, challenging region of Brazil.

And the government itself, I mean, we had since before the Bolsonaro government, we kept

that during our administration, and now I think it still kept a system to well to

handle those people and making a life the least miserable possible.

So in many cases, they are transferred

to other parts of Brazil where a life would be easier.

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