I'm John Bachelor with Ernesto Arruja former Foreign Minister of the Republic of Brazil

who helps me understand the matters of the Americas. This is the New World Report.

Ernesto, this is a puzzle to me. Thousands of Argentina took to the streets

around the country and especially in Buenos Aires to commemorate the anniversary of the 1976 military coup that

lasted eight years and led to widespread repression, torture and disappearances.

Why are they celebrating a coup and does this in any fashion

influence politics in Brazil? We have a few minutes.

Yes, it does both things. In case of Argentina, well the history is always more complicated than the way it's told, right?

So yes, there were many disappearances assassinations of course probably tens of thousands, but one thing that

Milay's administration is trying to review is's well are those numbers really like that the

classic numbers 30,000 disappeared and assassinated people.

The second is the lack of any mention that was in the last decades about assassinations performed by extreme left groups in Argentina.

Some of them that led, according to some of those assassinations and terrorist attacks led to the coup from the military.

So I think it's an effort not to rewrite history but to set things more straight.

And with Milay, I think, what came in Argentina is, okay, let's look back to our past and is the narrative that was told since the 80s

really correct that you've had only one side to that story or you have more than one side. So and this connects

as you said with Brazilian history because in a few days March 31st it's going to be the 60th anniversary of what by some is considered a coup,

by others considered a revolution in Brazil in 1964, which ousted the then left-wing president of Ron Guillar and introduced the 20 years of military rule.

And that military rule, what is the narrative today for Lula to Silva is that something that's

associated with Bolsonaro to they say beware Bolsonaro he'll bring back

64 is that the claim yes Yes, exactly, yeah.

They said, well, it was a dictatorship,

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