This is the New World Report. I'm John Bachelor with Professor Evan Ellis of the U.S.

Army War College Strategic Studies institute. Columbia.

The Reuters quote is provocative.

This from Gustavo Petro, the first term president of Columbia.

I believe you can only run one at a time unless in any event the

quote is I want him alive says Petro of a rebel leader what rebel leader I thought

to myself this is a top leader of a Stada Myor Central, EMC.

Professor, I get lost. There's so many gangs, there's so many top leaders who then disappear.

I don't recall EMC easily. But in any event, Petro, who had grand plans to make peace with the

rebels saying that they were expressing

the discontent of the nation is now very much mono or mono with a man whom I'm unfamiliar with but he leads a top he's said to be a top a top leader of a

rebel group that won't make peace. What's happened to Petro?

Well, John, Petro's attempt at what he called Total Peace, which was going to be about relaxing activities against all of the major groups both with

leftist guerrilla ties as well as a criminal groups in trying in different ways to achieve, to get each of them to reduce violence.

Each of those in different ways is fallen apart for different reasons.

And a little bit of the background of course is again. ways is fallen apart for different reasons.

And a little bit of the background, of course,

is again, historically you had two major leftist guerrilla groups

that were fighting in Colombia prior to 2016.

The bigger of which was the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Columbia

or the FARC, and a smaller, more Maoist-oriented group, the ELN.

What happened in 20, and then of course you had a series of different essentially armed groups who were just involved in narco-trafficking, the biggest of which at the time was the Urrebenios.

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