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#NewWorldReport: Melodrama in Bogota; score settling in Lima; doubts in Quito. Latin American Research Professor Evan Ellis, U.S. Army War College Strategic Studies Institute. @revanellis #NewWorldReportEllis

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🗓️ 23 June 2023

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#NewWorldReport: Melodrama in Bogota; score settling in Lima; doubts in Quito. Latin American Research Professor Evan Ellis, U.S. Army War College Strategic Studies Institute. @revanellis #NewWorldReportEllis

https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/thousands-march-colombia-against-petros-reforms-2023-06-20/


https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/colombia-government-labor-bill-shelved-after-legislators-fail-reach-quorum-2023-06-20/


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0:00.0

This is CBS I Am The World.

0:07.0

I'm John Bachelors.

0:08.0

Columbia, Dateline Bogota.

0:12.0

Thousands of anti-government demonstrators march through Columbia's major cities to protest

0:17.0

the economic and social reforms pushed by the government of leftist President Gustavo Petro.

0:23.0

Professor Evan Ellis of the U.S. Army War Colleges here is Strategic Studies Institute.

0:28.0

To help me understand the dynamism of Columbia's politics, just when you thought you could

0:34.8

settle down and say, well, they're part of the pink tide sweeping over all of the Americas.

0:40.9

The former guerrilla Gustavo Petro, a man who has great energy and is charming and is representative

0:48.4

of the intellectual left, he wasn't a violent guerrilla, he was an ideological guerrilla

0:54.4

to my understanding.

0:56.0

He is now President and he believes in symbolism and authority and he also proceeds to make

1:02.4

common cause with others in the region who are left of center or worse.

1:07.4

However, now there's a demonstration against Petro in Bogota.

1:13.0

Professor, I'm going to pause and say, I never understood the Spanish Civil War in the 1930s

1:20.6

because it was the anarchist versus the socialist versus the communist.

1:24.6

I'm certainly not ready to understand Columbia's politics.

1:28.4

Who's demonstrating against Petro?

1:31.1

I thought it was Petro who solved the difficulty of the center right in control.

1:36.2

Now, it's a great question, John.

1:38.1

A little bit of context, of course, as you pointed out yourself, the Colombians have been

1:42.6

very frustrated with the levels of violence and insecurity and corruption, and especially

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