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This is the New World Report. I'm John Bachelors with Professor Evan Ellis of the US Army

War College, looking at the new president in Brazil and notably a story that flows naturally

the question marks around Venezuela. A failed state, a rogue state, millions of fled, and

yet the president not regarded as legitimate by the United States. Maduro now enjoys a

headline that connects him to Brazil. Reuters in these last days. Brazil lifts ban, the

stop ban as well as Maduro entering the country. What it's striking about this is I didn't

know there was a ban. It just didn't make sense that Maduro and Bolsonaro would share

a stage. But at the same time, what does this mean about the largest economy in all of

South America, now dealing with what I thought was a rogue and failed state? Professor, what

are the advantages to Brazil? Is there something Brazil needs from the heavy oil or the resources

or the connections that Maduro represents?

Brazil certainly doesn't need anything economically or better said to very little from Venezuela.

But what Lula wants to position himself as is an even-handed broker of leadership across

Latin America. Brazil has always had that traditional voice, at least one of the voices of

leadership. Lula wants to re-engage with both the authoritarian left as well as the democratic

left in Latin America. Make everyone feel that they're welcome to the club. And yet also

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