I'm John Bapser with Ernesto Arujo, former Foreign Minister of the Republic of Brazil and

Joseph O'Marre, Executive Director of Secure Free Society Ernesto, the headline and Reuters

reads, China and Brazil reset ties with tech, environment accords agree on Ukraine.

The first paragraph indicates resetting diplomatic ties, largest trading partner of Brazil with

the state visit of Lula de Silva and many dozens of executives.

Brazilian President and several of his ministers signed the accords with President Xi Jinping

and other Chinese officials. We knew about this embassy for some time. It was delayed by

the President's illness, but now that it's been complete, is there anything here that's surprising

to you, shaking hands on camera and signing accords? Is this all understood to have been

worked out ahead of time or were there breakthroughs? Thank you.

So John, we could already foresee all this happening, maybe not to this extent,

but as I already spoke about here in this show, it was clear from the beginning that Lula wanted

to place Brazil inside of the Hotelitarian Block Center around China with Russia, Iran and other

partners. So that's what took place. So no surprise there. Lots of criticism in Brazil,

including not from the right, from the center to the extent to the in the sense that Lula and all

those agreements are creating much more dependence towards China in Brazil. It goes much beyond trade,

creating much more dependency on the production side. I mean, our cultural production is becoming

a part of the Chinese project. It's not only we're selling the products, but we are selling the land

and all the resources. That trap, many people talking about that, money that could come from these

agreements will possibly create that trap for Brazil towards China. Many people are saying, well,

why it goes so much beyond the economic relations? Do we need a cooperation between the

Brazilian Federal Police and the police of China? What are they going to cooperate around? How to

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