I'm John Bachelors with my colleagues Ernest Arruh and Joseph Umar.

Joseph back on the road you heard voices asking the question that I do not have a single answer to.

Why the three big powers outside of Venezuela?

Brasilia with Lula de Silva, Bogota with Gustavo, and Mexico City with Amlo, still

president though he will not be in the future.

All at first embraced Maduro's victory then backed up and said well perhaps

there's an investigation underway we'll wait for that and now have various

versions of you really should consider a second voter, you really should

have a recount, all of which cannot happen because of the way the election was processed.

The, the, the, the, the retain is in the hands of the National Electoral

Commission which is not going to seat its authority to anyone.

Hence they're persecuting Ernesto Gonzalez-O-Rita right now

because they're saying he had responsibility

for an illicit counting of the ballot.

What does Brasilia? illicit counting of the ballot.

What does Brasilia, Bogota, and Mexico City

get out of Venezuela, which is a narco- terrorist state, Joseph?

So John, that's a good question, because this, I think,

has less to do with kind of the bilateral relationship

that those three countries, Brazil, Colombia, and Mexico have with Venezuela and the

potential ramifications of either recognizing Maduro or recognizing Mundo Ghazales, because if you thought

about it from a practical policy

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