This is CBS Eye on the World with John Batchler. Here's John Batchler.

And I welcome Ernesto, our Ojo former Foreign Minister of the Republic of Brazil and

Joseph Oomar Executive Director of Secure Free Society, Democracy in the Americas. Many

examples right now, press hard the idea that democracies in trouble, very hard. For example,

international community cheers Guatemala anti-graph candidates landslide victory. The man is named

Aravalo. He emerged suddenly in the preliminary, the first round of voting several weeks back.

He has now defeated the presumed to be establishment candidate and is accepting congratulations

from the United States, from Taiwan, from international community. But there are questions to be

answered. And I welcome Ernesto and Joseph to comment on democracy, even with what appears to be

a happy conclusion. Joseph, you've published at the Hill lessons from Latin America's Democratic

backslide. What does Guatemala mean to your understanding, Joseph? Good evening to you.

Good evening, John. So I think what we're seeing in Guatemala is a part of this Democratic

backslide, but it's not yet fully transitioning or transition to an authoritarian government.

As we're seeing in other countries, currently in Colombia, I think Colombia is in the transition

that could end up in authoritarian governance. But what you're seeing in Guatemala, I think,

is a kind of a disenfranchisement dissolution with democracy. And that's being represented mostly

by the voters who are choosing to abstain from voting or notifying their votes or are just simply

just not really connected anymore to the democratic process. And we're seeing that in this most recent

election, Bernardo Aravalo, who's now the president elect of Guatemala, he will be the next president

when he's inaugurated in January. He comes in with a landslide victory, he won about 60% of the vote.

But with a smaller share of the vote, the extension rate in Guatemala grew from 40% in the first round

to close to 60% in the fine around the second round. And what that means is that we're seeing a

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