This is TBSI on the world. I'm John Bachelor. The New World Report.

Joseph Umar and Ernesto are helping me explain a vast landscape where I have never been and the

more I read about it the more of the contradictions become compelling. This is like one great big

buildings Roman, the rise and rise of Latin America except and Ernesto I come to

you with what appears to be both the climate story and a story about

politics and money.

Wildfires affecting 30 cities in Brazil's Sao Paulo State leave two dead.

The cities have been affected by dry, hot weather in recent days, the government said in a statement.

The state government also warned that the forest fires

could spread rapidly from gusts of wind and then damaging natural vegetation.

There's an enormous picture of these fires. Now you have taught me to ask this question. This

wildfire outbreak in South Palo State, is this the same wildfire outbreak during the Boston Arrow administration that was blamed on the president?

Is it the same one?

Oh no, John, this is a different one because the

Sao Paulo State is very far from the Amazon region or from the central savanna region

that is also a normally the one where there are lots of fires every year.

I think this is unprecedented in the

Sao Paulo State. The Sao Paulo State is the industrial manufacturing heart of

Brazil but also a very important agricultural state. And, okay, like the climate, but I think more and more that climate is not a scientific issue, is a political issue.

If it were the same, if you had the same situation under Bolsonaro, people will be crying for impeachment or something like that.

And under Lula people, so okay, this year is more is drier than the previous years.

Anyway, so it's clearly two measures for the same situation.

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