I'm John Bachelor. This is the New World Report with Ernesto Arroja, former foreign

minister of the Republic of Brazil. He's in North America with me and Joseph Umar,

momentarily not traveling in North America with me, Executive Director of

Secure Free Society. Ernesto I come to you with very bad news about your native Brazil.

Fires in Brazilian wetlands surge 980% extreme drought expected.

This following the flooding, the enormous rainfall in Rio Grande

DuSoule that led to the dishoming of 500,000 people, many of them not native Brazilians, but refugees from other countries.

Damage to the ecosystem going forward for next year's rice crop, disease, dengue fever outbreak.

That was the flooding, now the drought in the wetlands, the Brazilian wetlands. There have been droughts elsewhere, so this looks like climate change.

To your understanding, is Brazil, in some fashion in a position to help itself or to compensate for what we can expect to be more and more natural phenomenon?

Well, John, I think the issue is more political than, let's say, scientific or climate related.

Brazil could be a country much more prepared for those emergencies.

If the economy was going better, if the central government didn't absorb and transform into corruption so much of the country's wealth.

So now that's what we're seeing with the enormous challenge of floods in the South, the reconstruction, the need for, I mean,

billions of dollars for reconstruction, where is this coming from?

This could come from a healthy economy, a healthy government, which lets the economy

function, and something similar for the Amazon and other regions in Brazil.

So I think that's part of the issue.

So I think it's more a question of political science than Earth science if you if you allow me that comparison

One aspect to show that the the fires due to Jopnes as you mentioned.

Actually, they are not in the Amazon region.

They are in the center west of Brazilian region,

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