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This is CBS, I on the World, the New World Report. I welcome my colleagues Ernesto Arousa, former Foreign Minister of Republic of Brazil,

and Alejandra Pina Escusa, who is the representative of the freedom-loving people

of Venezuela. He is in Spain because conditions in Venezuela are unacceptable to both Alejandro's

security and also the people of Venezuela. We begin, however, with Brazil, a very large and important country for the success of the Western Hemisphere.

And yet, Ernesto, I come to you because this item you first brought to my attention with a posting by Donald Trump on true social,

accusing the Lola de Silva administration of persecuting

former President Jire Bolsonaro and his family, using lawfare and a member of the Supreme Court

to disenfranchise the Bolsonaro's from the next election. The president made it very clear

that he knew what was going on and he wanted it to stop. Since then, the war of words is accelerated

to the point that we're now talking about tariffs being imposed upon Brazil, Brazil's vital

industries in retaliation for Lula de Silva's conduct.

Lula de Silva, on the other hand, has advisors who say your chances for re-election have now been

revived because though you are at something like a 24% approval rating, the attacks by Donald Trump on you make you a viable candidate.

What is your measure of the exchange that's been going on these last days between Mr. Trump,

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