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Joseph Umar Executive Director of

Security Society

he's in Buenos Aires for important events and Ernesto

Arrujo former Foreign Minister of Brazil. He's in North America with me and Ernesto I

come to you because Brazil's opinion of these events that Joseph has illustrated and is now attending

an anniversary of these events, they are outrageous, they were crimes.

We have strong reason to believe that they're attached not to a terrorist organization transnational like Al Qaeda, but attached directly to Hezbollah, which is a surrogate of the Lebanese states such as it is, which is a direct surrogate

of the Islamic Republic of Iran.

In other words, we're not dealing with the people's will, 1881, assassinating its are.

We're dealing with the capital of Iran and perhaps also its's linked to the Moscow attachment to war fighting and Beijing and Pyongyang.

In other words, the axis of resistance is not unwelcome if we understand the way Brazil is practicing its foreign

policy today. So your time in office and since then is the Amia bombing a factor for Brazilian foreign affairs?

Does it come up when Lula de Silva speaks well of Russia or speaks well of the bricks?

Yes, John, unfortunately, all the Russia or speaks well of the bricks.

Yes, John, unfortunately, all those connections that you pointed to, they are reflected in the attitude of current

administration in Brazil, basically of being soft on anything that has to do with Iran links

to terrorism or Russia links to Iran, so links to terrorism to organized crime, all that is swept under the carpet.

If not worse than that.

If not, well, we can speculate further on other links.

But actually, since 1994, for 30 years with the exception of the time

Bolsonar was president and I was foreign minister the overall attitude of

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