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🗓️ 2 December 2025
⏱️ 93 minutes
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Jon covers the news pertinent for conservative American Christians including the rise in religious "nones," the new CEO of Christianity Today, Summit Church's continued soft-peddling of illegal immigration, Trump's executive order to help Christian families participate in the Foster Care system, Jonathan Leeman's defense of Mark Dever and acknowledgement that Christians shouldn't vote for pro-choice candidates, and more!
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| 0:00.0 | We are now live on the Conversations That Matter podcast. |
| 0:04.1 | I'm your host, John Harris. |
| 0:05.5 | I have a quick story to share with you before we get into some of the news stories. |
| 0:09.7 | I was talking about this with my wife because earlier today, I decided to, well, I was working, |
| 0:17.3 | but it was also a break. |
| 0:18.2 | I decided to have a break. |
| 0:20.2 | And I went and did an errand and then I decided to go to Dunkin' Donuts. |
| 0:24.2 | I know, I never thought I'd like Dunkin' Donuts, but they got these great energy drinks |
| 0:29.4 | and these wonderful refreshers they call them. |
| 0:32.9 | And I'm a little bit hooked. |
| 0:34.4 | I'm not going to lie, but they're because they're a little too expensive, |
| 0:38.8 | I can't go there every day or anything like that or else I probably would. But today was a day. |
| 0:44.3 | I said, I'm going to go get myself a Dunkin refresher. And I'm going to sit at this particular spot |
| 0:50.0 | at this Dunkin Donuts that I know about where I can look out my window and I can see the mountains. It's got a great view. And I'm just going to write. And I did write. I wrote a substack, actually. You can go to my substack, which is John, well, sorry, it's substack.com forward slash at John Harris. So that's where you can go if you want to see my substack. |
| 1:10.9 | This is what it looks like. So I wrote a substack called When the Right Rejects Rules. |
| 1:14.5 | Maybe I'll do a episode on it later this week. But that's beside the point. |
| 1:18.7 | Here's how the story goes. I'm sitting there. And in front of me, I notice there are three |
| 1:25.9 | young, maybe upper high school. |
| 1:28.7 | I don't know if they were freshman college. |
| 1:31.0 | They could have been or maybe one of them was, but they were in that 12th grade to junior |
| 1:36.9 | and college range, somewhere in there. |
| 1:41.1 | And I'm listening. I'm not trying to listen, right? I'm actually trying to concentrate on what I'm listening. |
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