Welcome to the conversation, that matter of podcast. I'm your host to John Harris for a bit of a news round on my guest.

Some things I've had on my phone that I thought well I should talk about this and I haven't gotten around to it and

today's the day we'll talk about a number of things currently even things that are

happening right now on social media related to Christianity

and social justice of course and and we're gonna actually at the end I'm gonna play

I haven't it's a cold read as some people call it but it's I guess a cold listen

I'm gonna listen to a five minute Kevin De Young clip on Christian nationalism

and we'll see what he has to say on that topic but we're going to listen to it together.

It's fun to do that sometimes.

Most of the time though I'll tell you what I really like to know what I'm getting into.

I like to know ahead of time.

I like to have all available facts. I like to have a paradigm that makes sense of those facts

So that I can then give it to you so that you know at least you have the information you need to navigate an issue.

That's, in my mind, that's what I try to do on this podcast because there's so many slanted

narratives out there.

They give you incomplete information and it's agenda driven and it doesn't mean I don't have

agendas it doesn't mean God doesn't have agendas doesn't mean the Bible doesn't

have agendas what it means though and when I'm using the term agenda is

specifically a use of unequal weights and measures,

a attempt to deceive a suppressing of information that doesn't fit a certain

narrative in order to make you think something and that's one thing that I don't intend to ever do. And when I do it,

if I do it on this podcast, I will apologize. And there's been a, I can count it on one hand,

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