Welcome to a citations needed news brief. I am Nema Shirazzi.

I'm Madam Johnson. We do these news briefs in between our regularly scheduled full length episodes usually when there is breaking news news January 26th. News has broken that the International Criminal Court of Justice

in the Hague has found some merit with the South African case against Israel

on the grounds of committing genocide in Palestine.

The ruling has been released this morning and

instantaneously the New York Times is running interference for Israel.

Yeah, so the obligatory qualifier, we're not lawyers.

I think that's patently obvious.

If we were lawyers, we wouldn't be doing a podcast.

We'd have a real job.

Some lawyers have podcasts.

Oh, well, that's there.

I don't know how you would fall that far.

I will say this, which is that it is clear based on the legal consensus in a safe

to paraphrase and the court's own words that there is quote unquote plausible basis for genocide and

genocidal acts both in terms of intent where it's used and actual actions people

killed the collective punishment of civilians the use of water food fuel

deliberate targeting of infrastructure and people so all that's established by the court

which when it was announced is considered a huge win. But the court fell short of

explicitly calling for a ceasefire. Now the South African diplomats and lawyers argued that the

ceasefire is implicit in the what they said was that they need to

immediately prevent genocidal acts which include according to their own to their own

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