News Brief: On Palestine, It's Time for Progressives to Stop Reading From the Same Outrage Script & Support BDS
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Citations Needed
4.8 • 4.1K Ratings
🗓️ 12 May 2021
⏱️ 21 minutes
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Summary
In this News Brief, we breakdown the entirely predictable cycle of media coverage, liberal handwringing, vague "progressive" outrage, and why the most recent "clashes" should compel nominal progressive leaders like Bernie Sanders and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez to formally support BDS.
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to A Citations Needed News Brief. I am Neem Asherazi. |
| 0:07.0 | I'm Adam Johnson. |
| 0:08.0 | We do these news briefs in between our regularly scheduled episodes when we see things in the news that we think we should talk about. |
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| 0:31.0 | So go do that if you feel like that's something you want to do. |
| 0:35.0 | But today Adam unsurprisingly we felt like we really needed to address some of the things we're seeing as Israel. |
| 0:41.0 | Again commits egregious war crimes in Palestine from Israeli police attacking worshipers and also protesters, Palestinian worshipers and protesters at the Al-Aqsa mosque. |
| 0:54.0 | The other day the racist mobs that rage through Jerusalem every quote unquote Jerusalem day, which is a pro colonial pro occupation holiday in Israel. |
| 1:06.0 | And how then when the militant arm of Hamas in Gaza fired some little rockets at Israel, the Israeli army and air force as usual decide to use that to do what they were going to do anyway, which is launch a number of airstrikes that kill a lot of people I think at present. |
| 1:28.0 | There have been at least 20 Palestinians killed in Gaza, nine of whom are children. But what do we see in the media when this happens? It's the same every single time. |
| 1:38.0 | It's the script. It's the playbook. It is rising tensions and a call for calm and clashes between Israeli troops and Palestinians. |
| 1:49.0 | So yeah, this episode we're going to catch up with some of the more egregious media coverage. And we're going to talk specifically about the undercurrent of what we refer to in episode 28 over three years ago as the asymptotic two state solution, which is to say a two state solution that always approaches being dead, but somehow never dies. |
| 2:06.0 | And the function, the zombie two state solution mantra serves specifically to sort of get liberals out of tough situations where they're asked to support or call for the support of the basic humanity of Palestinians living under Israeli occupation, which is effectively all of them despite this kind of bifurcation of the occupation versus Israel proper. |
| 2:26.0 | But yeah, there's this bullshit green line idea as if apartheid doesn't actually also exist in Israel. And there are tiered rights within that system, but basically there are still colonial subjects subject to racial criteria for basic citizenship and for enshism. |
| 2:39.0 | So we want to start by talking about some of the more sort of run of the mill. Again, you probably already know all the stuff. I'm not telling you, you don't know, but it's worth kind of pointing out this at the table. |
| 2:47.0 | And then we want to move on to how the zombie two state solution serves as a way of preventing us because here's the thing, right? It's a script at this point. We run the same script every few years, 2018, 2014, now 2021 before that 2012, before that 2009, you could sort of set your watch to it at this point. |
| 3:08.0 | And we want to talk about the movements to break away from the script and break away from the cycle of condemning in a way that preserves this idea that somehow there's some nebulous piece process that has to be achieved or appealing to some hall monitorism rule of law, which stopped mattering decades and decades ago, and it's kind of a distraction, although I understand why people use that language. |
| 3:33.0 | You know, I understand why people like Noriawka talk about law because it's kind of trying to use the colonizers own logic against them. |
| 3:39.0 | And I think that has rhetorical value, but I think it's time to sort of move past the language of home on and arisen into colonialism and justice and sort of more moral terms, because I think that's really what's at stake here, because no one gives a shit about the law. |
| 3:51.0 | I mean, it was obviously a fucking stalking horse, right? It doesn't really matter anyway. |
| 3:56.0 | Yeah, I mean, it's exactly the construct used to maintain exactly the power structures that are consistently maintained. And so you can say you can appeal to the rule of law, but the rule of law was written by those who benefit from it. |
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