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🗓️ 10 March 2021
⏱️ 42 minutes
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In this episode of Intelligence Matters, host Michael Morell interviews Robert "Bob" Pape, a political science professor at the University of Chicago specializing in international security affairs. He is also the director of the Chicago Project on Security and Threats where he leads a team producing fascinating new research on the insurrection at the U.S. Capitol, amongst other things. Pape puts into context how truly historic the storming of the Capitol was and warns of the movement further congealing.
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0:00.0 | This is Intelligence Matters, with former acting director of the CIA, Michael Morrell. |
0:06.6 | Brought to you by Lockheed Martin. |
0:08.7 | Your mission is ours. |
0:11.9 | I think the very first thing to remind our listeners is of the truly historic nature of |
0:19.0 | what happened on January 6th. |
0:21.7 | Since the War of 1812, the U.S. Capitol has not been attacked. |
0:26.4 | If we look from World War II on to today in modern democracies, of course the U.S. Capitol |
0:33.1 | has never been attacked. |
0:34.6 | But the British Parliament has never been attacked. |
0:37.4 | The German Bundestag has never been attacked. |
0:40.0 | The French Parliament has never been attacked. |
0:45.3 | This is not the usual suspects because the organized right-wing militants were really |
0:52.4 | quite a small part of this. |
0:54.7 | If you only had the organized right-wing militants, we probably wouldn't have had the storm. |
1:00.5 | We probably wouldn't have been here today. |
1:02.4 | What made the Capitol Hill attack a storm were the 88% who were not part of the right-wing |
1:10.2 | militias. |
1:11.6 | And that's why we really need to understand what's occurring in the situation. |
1:20.4 | Robert Pate is a renowned professor of political science at the University of Chicago specializing |
1:25.9 | in international security affairs. |
1:28.4 | He teaches a wildly popular class at Chicago simply called strategy. |
1:33.3 | Professor Pate also runs the Chicago Project on Security and Threats, a center affiliated |
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