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npr.org. Just a quick note, this podcast contains explicit language. Well, David, we lost a giant

this week. Quincy Jones at 91 left us for the next bardo. I'll tell you a funny thing about myself.

When I was 12 or 13, one of my favorite movies was the first wives club.

I don't know how it happened.

You could just stop there.

The climax of that movie, I don't know if you've seen it, is Goldie Hawn,

Bet Midler and Diane Keaton, three middle-aged women who have been

left by their husbands for younger women and decide to exact petty revenge. It closes with them

repeating this routine that they learned in college when they were all best friends, where they sing and dance to You Don't Own Me.

It's my first exposure to that song.

Leslie Gore's classic.

You don't own me.

I'm not just one of your many toys.

And then I learned some years later through a Netta Ulibee piece on NPR that that song was produced by Mr. Quincy Jones in 1963, that it had this weird connection to civil

rights, most notably, but then, you know, over time, it became refashioned as like a Me Too

song. It became, you know, an LGBT-type song once Leslie Gore came out. This song that's

sort of known as very linked to like second wave feminism also

had this sort of secret alliance to Quincy Jones and to black music was just a wild surprise.

I mean, Ben Ratliff's obituary in The Times was was really great. Talked a lot about how he

embodied, you know, black social mobility and artistic mobility. And I think that's so, so true.

I mean, he'd accomplished so many things during his life, published so many amazing writers,

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