It's the Brian Lairor Show on WNYC. Good morning again, everyone. As we continue to unpack all the election results, we'll have Christina Greer, the Fordham University Political

Science Professor and frequent guest coming up later in the hour on the New York results. We're

going to talk right now to Michael Hayes, who covers New Jersey for us. And in the middle, we're

going to have Susan Page, the Washington Bureau Chief of USA Today, to put it into national

context. What do the New York

and New Jersey and Virginia and California, if you didn't follow that and some other things,

actually mean for the rest of the Trump administration, for potential control of Congress

next year and for other things. So Susan Page coming up, Christina Greer coming up.

We just heard before the news from New Jersey Governor-elect Mikey Cheryl and with me now to dig a

little more into those results and talk about what lies ahead for Cheryl as she assumes the governor's

mansion is Michael Hayes, WNYC and Gothamist reporter, covering the New Jersey

governor's race. He's also the author of The Secret Files, Bill de Blasio, the NYPD, and the

broken promises of police reform. Hey, Mike, I know it was a long night. Thanks for getting up.

Welcome back to the show. Hey, Brian. Thanks for having me.

So are you as stunned as some people seem to be by the margin of her victory? 13 points.

All these polls were so close. A lot of people were predicting, you know, history suggests

Chittarelli would win, but 13 points.

Yeah, Brian, to answer your question very plainly, I am stunned. I mean, she had a lot going against her, going into election night, not the least of which that this is the first time that either party in 60 years has won three consecutive

governor's terms so yeah I mean I was trying to think of a sports analogy here Brian you and I are both big baseball fans and I I mean, there's one sitting right there. I know we

don't have too many Dodger fans listening right now, probably, but a couple weeks ago,

Shohay Otani hit three home runs and struck out 10 in one game. I think that performance

is probably the best analogy for what Cheryl did last night in New Jersey.

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