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New book ‘Injustice’ explores Trump’s decade-long effort to politicize DOJ

PBS News Hour - Segments

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4.11K Ratings

🗓️ 4 November 2025

⏱️ 8 minutes

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Summary

In their new book, Pulitzer Prize–winning journalists Carol Leonnig and Aaron Davis offer an investigation into the unraveling of the U.S. Justice Department. They reveal how, under Donald Trump, the nation’s top law enforcement agency was transformed from an institution built to protect the rule of law into one pressured to protect the president. They joined Geoff Bennett to discuss "Injustice." PBS News is supported by - https://www.pbs.org/newshour/about/funders. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy

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0:00.0

In their new book, Pulitzer Prize-winning journalists Carol Lennox and Aaron Davis offer a deeply reported investigation into the decade-long unraveling of the U.S. Justice Department.

0:10.1

They reveal how under Donald Trump, the nation's top law enforcement agency was transformed from an institution built to protect the rule of law into one pressured to protect the president.

0:20.6

The reporting exposes how the department already weakened by politics and fear

0:25.1

struggle to hold Mr. Trump accountable after the 2020 election and how those delays

0:30.2

may have helped pave his path back to power.

0:32.6

The book is Injustice, how politics and fear vanquished America's Justice Department. And we're joined

0:39.0

now by Carol Lenig of MSNBC and Aaron Davis of The Washington Post. It's great to see you both.

0:44.3

Thanks for having us, Chuck.

0:45.3

Thank you.

0:46.3

So for anyone who has wondered how Donald Trump has so quickly transformed, reshaped, reimagined

0:52.3

the Justice Department to serve his own political ends.

0:55.4

This book really answers that question.

0:57.8

And Carol, it started well before the start of his second term.

1:01.8

That's right, Jeff.

1:03.0

You know, we were sort of, as reporters, Aaron and I were covering this in real time and saw

1:08.6

Donald Trump target individual agents, you know, for humiliation,

1:13.9

for public excoriation in his first presidency. But what we learned in the course of reporting

1:19.2

this book is how much that targeting and that kind of bare-knuckles attack really scarred

1:26.2

people inside the Justice Department.

1:28.6

And in particular, FBI agents who felt their careers had been tarnished, if not ruined,

1:34.5

by him coming after them.

1:36.7

And it changed the tenor of a Department of Justice and a, you know, mighty investigative arm,

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