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New American Pope Blasted Trump and JD Vance Before Election

Bulwark Takes

The Bulwark

Society & Culture, News Commentary, News, Politics

4.71.2K Ratings

🗓️ 8 May 2025

⏱️ 15 minutes

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Summary

A shocking twist in church history: the new pope is American—Pope Leo XIV, a 69-year-old Villanova grad with deep ties to South America and the global South. His final tweet before ascending to the papacy took aim at J.D. Vance, mocking him. Though he didn’t speak English during his first blessing, he’s already sparking pride, back home.

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0:00.0

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0:39.8

American pontiff in history, USA.

0:41.6

American Pope. We have an American Pope, JVL. He will be-U-SA! U.S. I feel like Haxaw Jim

0:50.2

Duggan out here with my two-by-four. Look at that. Lee Greenwood. Q Lee Greenwood.

0:55.1

American Catholic moment. He'll be known as Pope Leo the 14th. He is a 69-year-old nice from

1:01.9

Chicago. His global experience, he's heard as a bishop in Peru. He's most recently leading

1:07.7

the powerful Vatican office for Bishop Appointments.

1:11.7

And the only other thing that I know about him is that he shit on J.D. Vance on Twitter a couple

1:16.2

weeks ago. So that's, honestly, he's from America and he hate tweeted J.D. Vance. That's enough

1:23.6

for me. But Jonathan, you're a little bit deeper in this. So what's your assessment?

1:28.7

We got a resistance, Pope. No, I'm kidding. That's a joke. We'll use that as a headline,

1:33.3

but it's basically a joke. So this is shocking, I think, to everybody. Not totally shocking because

1:42.8

his name had been in the conversation conversation uh my my

1:46.9

best sources on this are the people over at the pillar go to the pillar catholic dot com

1:53.0

and subscribe to them uh and they did a profile on him like three days ago which they would not

1:58.4

have done if they didn't hear rumblings that there

2:01.1

were some talk about. I've not read that profile. So is he, did he ever, was he ever a bishop

2:04.8

in America? Was he ever a US? Yes. I believe he was in, in Chicago for a little bit. But

2:13.0

he did, he did all of his, his ministry was done in South America. And then he's been over in room.

2:20.7

He's reasonably young.

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