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Indiecast

New Albums By Wilco And Animal Collective + The Resurgence of Mid-'80s Alt-Rock

Indiecast

Amazon Music

Music Commentary, Music, Indie Music, Indie Rock

4.6621 Ratings

🗓️ 29 September 2023

⏱️ 60 minutes

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Summary

Steven and Ian begin today's episode by reflecting on the news that John Darnielle and Lin-Manuel Miranda are apparently friends and consult each other on songwriting. They also tiptoe around their mixed feelings on both artists, while pointing out that they might be more alike than people want to admit. As if this wasn't enough to alienate part of the Indiecast audience, Steven and Ian also did a short Sportscast on the relationship between Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce (8:22).

After that, the guys get into a discussion about new albums by two big legacy acts, Wilco and Animal Collective. Their latest records, Cousin (for Wilco) and Isn't It Now? (Animal Collective), are worthy efforts. But is it possible for even great bands to wear out their audiences? How many new albums is "enough"? Steven and Ian get into a deep conversation about legacy bands and how we as listeners respond to them (18:39).

Then they segue into a discussion about two bands who are even older: The Replacements and Talking Heads (33:34). Both bands are having a moment right now due to seminal work from the mid-'80s being re-released, the remixed album Tim and the refurbished concert film Stop Making Sense. Steven wonders: Does Ian like or care about either band? How relevant are they as influences on contemporary music?

In Recommendation Corner (53:28), Ian talks up the Brooklyn emo band Good Looking Friends while Steven recommends the Chicago indie band Slow Pulp and the heartland rock singer-songwriter Jerry David DeCicca.

New episodes of Indiecast drop every Friday. Listen to Episode 157 here and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts. You can submit questions for Steve and Ian at indiecastmailbag@gmail.com, and make sure to follow us on Instagram and Twitter for all the latest news. We also recently launched a visualizer for our favorite Indiecast moments. Check those out here.

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Indycast is presented by Uprocks's Indy Mix tape.

0:12.8

Hello everyone and welcome to Indycast.

0:14.7

On this show, we talk about the biggest indie news of the week.

0:17.0

We review albums and we hash out trends.

0:19.5

In this episode, we talk about new albums by

0:21.3

Wilco and Animal Collective and a big moment for mid-80s alternative rock. My name is Stephen

0:27.9

Hayden and I'm joined by my friend and co-host. He's been sharing early drafts of his songs

0:32.0

with Lynn Memo Miranda for 10 years. Ian Cohen, Ian, how are you? Steve, can I ask you a personal question before we get going? Of course. I'm going to open a book. When did you and your wife first start dating? 06. Okay. So, I asked this because, you know, if you've been dating since 2006, you've never had the... Okay, so we've tiptoed around our opinions on Beyonce, on Taylor Swift, on, you know,

1:00.6

many artists which are general, like big consensus artists.

1:04.7

I can tell you that I've never had to more lightly tiptoe around a pop culture phenomenon in dating and in the workplace

1:13.3

than I have with Hamilton. I cannot think of anything that's gone more wrong than when I've

1:20.1

shared even like a Masley, yeah, it's not for me type opinion. So I just want to say like we are

1:26.4

treading on dangerous ground here if we're going to make LMM jokes. So I just want to say, like, we are treading on dangerous ground here.

1:28.5

If we're going to make LMM jokes. So, like, is your wife a Hamilton fan? You know what? I did

1:35.1

watch, I think this might have been pandemic. It was 2019 or 2020. We did watch when Disney,

1:42.5

I think it was Disney Plus showed a recorded version of it.

1:46.5

Okay. See, I don't, I'm in a relationship where my wife also can't stand Hamilton.

1:51.6

Oh. So I don't have to worry about that. We're actually pretty simpatico on a lot of things like that.

1:56.5

So I haven't had that issue. We should backtrack though though, here a little bit because there was a picture this week

2:03.1

that dropped online.

2:05.4

It was apparently posted on Facebook by John Darniel of the Mountain Goats.

2:10.3

A Facebook friend of mine.

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