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Welcome to Navaralive, I'm Aaron Bustani, and tonight I have the the pleasure being joined by Dan Evans as a co-host all the way from South Wales. Dan, how are we? I'm good, mate. Thanks for having me. I'm good. You look like you've gone for the shortich, uh, general manager.

Oh, thank you. Well, I thought it was like academic, you know, like respected sociologist, but no, the bar

managers, I'll take that as well.

Hey, why not be both, right?

There's very few people that can pull off both of those, Shortich, you know, general bar manager

and very successful sociologist.

Had a great interview, Dan Evans about his book over on YouTube, obviously on this channel, Navaradia. Fantastic

conversation, I think one of the best conversations we heard over the last two years. Go check

that out if you haven't already. And Dan, before we go any further, for people who aren't already

familiar with your work,

who are you? What do you do? And what's the title of that esteemed book I just referred to?

Thanks, mate. Yeah, so the book is A Nation of Shopkeepers, The Unstoppable Rise of the Petty Bouguizzi,

which is basically about the rise of the British low middle classes and they're rolling, I guess,

right-wing populism. Very relevant. Only getting more relevant, by the way.

I was going to say, the worst the UK, you know, the worst politics gets, you know, the more

relevant my book gets.

So it's hard to know if it's good or bad.

We will be talking about this in the context of welfare stuff in a bit.

Coming up on tonight's show, we'll hear from Daniel Levy on Israel's resumed bombing of Gaza.

Liz Kendall has confirmed which benefits are set to be slashed and which will

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