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Okay, so we did two podcasts on the 1988 election.

You break everybody's back.

That's from the Lee at Water quote in the end. You break everyone's back.

He was referring to the South Carolina primary and the fact that the Bush campaign

running against Dole and all the others just saw South Carolina

is kind of their insurance policy that would break everybody's back.

In other words, he had the governor of the state locked up. He had the organization locked up and no one could effectively compete. And so they knew they were going to win South Carolina and that came right before the big primary of Super Tuesday and influenced

the news coverage of it and made George Bush the front runner. But it is an open

question still I believe as to what would happen had Dole come out of a win in Iowa

right and then stunning bush the third place and then you get to New Hampshire and if Dole wins that and he well could have I mean if he ran the

inoculation ad if he ran an ad saying I will not raise taxes looking into the camera

Even if it was income taxes and then if Bush runs the straddle

ad which says that you know Dole can't say no it doesn't look credible and they

probably wouldn't even run that ad if dole had come out with an inoculation advertisement, but he doesn't.

And history is different, right?

But if Dole wins New Hampshire, now you suddenly have the Vice President having lost the two contests and I don't know you know and

then Strom Thurmond's endorsing Bob Dole in most states Bob Dole had the senators locked up

and dole's a powerful figure.

He's the majority leader, former R&C chair, just like George Bush was.

Definitely a campaign of two establishment people between Dole and Bush. It's just kind of which

side of things, either the congressional side or the executive branch. One of the things Dole

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