You criticize China, you criticize Nike, you're not going to play basketball every game.

You pissed off the Turkish person, but this wasn't enough, right?

Because you then had to piss off the Chinese Communist Party as well. Tell us about that.

And the more I studied, the more I realized, wow, this is just crazy and no one

had encouraged to talk about this issue. So I was like, from now on, I'm going to talk about

every dictatorship. Because I was in the hypocrisy, you know? So BLM and everything was for them,

it was just PR. I asked in one simple question, I was like, put yourself in their shoes.

If your mother, if your sister, if your daughter wasn't those concentration camps getting tortured

and rape every day, would you still pick money and business over your morals, values and principles?

They usually turn around a little. Every organization to see your companies has been bought

by someone bad out there.

Hello and welcome to Trigonometry on the road from the USA. I'm Francis Foster.

I'm Constantine Kishin. And this is a show for you if you want honest conversations with fascinating

people. Our brilliant guest today is a former NBA star and now activist,

and this formerly cancer now freedom. Welcome to Trigonometry. Thank you for having me.

Listen man, thank you so much for coming. You're fasting. You just got off a plane. So we're

grateful for your time. I was actually a big fan of yours when you were playing in the NBA,

but a lot of our audience who are not that into sport may not know who you are.

So tell us your story. How what's your journey through life? Are you born in Turkey?

I actually born in Switzerland. You're born in Switzerland. I won't say anything else. You tell

all my father as a scientist and he was doing his master in Switzerland and that's where I'm born.

I literally stayed up for maybe nine months. I wish I stayed up longer so I could just speak

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