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Higher Learning with Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay

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🗓️ 3 October 2025

⏱️ 116 minutes

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Rachel and Van start the show by taking a moment to acknowledge the life of the late Assata Shakur before Rep. Maxwell Frost joins to talk about the government shutdown and the volatile housing market. After, they get into the drama surrounding the WNBA leadership comments, and Ray J getting sued by the Kardashians. Then, they end the show with a “VanLaTEN” for Bad Bunny. 00:00 - Welcome! 05:56 - Assata Shakur’s passing 08:15 - Rep. Maxwell Frost joins us! 1:04:04 - The WNBA’s leadership 1:31:33 - Ray J is getting sued 1:41:49 - The reaction to Bad Bunny and the Super Bowl 1:43:59 - Van’s 5 ideas for Bad Bunny’s performance 1:53:15 - Thanks for watching! Hosts: Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay Guest: Rep. Maxwell Frost Producers: Donnie Beacham and Ashleigh Smith Video Supervision: Chris Thomas Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Yo, yo, yo, thought warriors.
0:04.2	What is up?
0:05.8	I learned his own is Ivan Lakin, Jr.
0:08.1	And it's me, Rachel and Leslie.
0:13.2	We got, we got Maxwell Frost joining us.
0:17.0	We're going to talk about the shutdown with Maxwell Frost.
0:19.6	We're going to bring him in to talk about the shutdown.
0:23.2	He is a Democratic congressman from Florida.
0:27.3	One of the young guns there.
0:29.8	And we're going to talk to him.
0:30.4	It was a good conversation.
0:31.2	Don't you think so, Rachel?
0:32.1	It was a great conversation.
0:34.0	Yeah, fun.
0:34.8	Talked a little bit about housing.
0:37.1	No, no, no, no. We did not talk about it, really. We didn't talk about our issues. You versus me on it. Really, you versus everybody.
0:48.4	Yeah. Do you have any supporters in this? Well, yeah.
0:53.2	Other than squatters?
0:55.2	No, a lot of people to the left of, you know, people like yourself might say that in a
1:05.6	race system, they don't care if you steal what you need.
1:08.3	And, you know, like in a race system, like, to me, I look at someone and they're hungry and they steal some bread. And I go, oh, that makes a lot of sense. They're hungry, so they stole the bread. And then, you know, Rachel comes along. Jail. Get. I'm not even getting into this with you. I'm not even getting into this with you. I'm not. We've been here before. I don't want to hear it. Thought worries don't want to hear it. It's hard. You know, it's hard? Maxwell Frost didn't want to hear it. Maxwell Frost was good on it. He actually gave it. But he did not, he did not pick a side.
2:00.9	Well, he can't pick a side because he actually has to fix the problem. Right, right. Which is what I wanted. Well, no, that's not what you wanted. What you wanted. You can't steal what you get to jail. But Rachel, we've talked about this before. Yeah. Okay, can I be honest with you? Can I be honest with you about something? Because I said before that you come from a prosecuting family, right?
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