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Pulling The Thread with Elise Loehnen

Navigating Quarterlife (Satya Doyle Byock)

Pulling The Thread with Elise Loehnen

Elise Loehnen

Society & Culture, Religion & Spirituality, Self-improvement, Education

4.8900 Ratings

🗓️ 28 July 2022

⏱️ 52 minutes

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Summary

“The focus of adulthood has been on stability, just, you know, find a job and don't leave it, find a partner and don't get divorced, have babies, you know, white picket fence, the vision of adulthood has been so wedded to stability that it was hard for me, even in writing the book and sorting this out, to pull them apart, you know, that the understanding full stop is that the goal of adulthood is to gain stability and then midlife, we now understand people have to search for meaning because there wasn't time for that prior. I'm trying to revise that and name what I think all of us have known for a long time, which is that it just doesn't work that way. It's not that easy. And actually, if we aren't finding our own personal sense of meaning in this world, while also working to gain some sense of physical, emotional, relational stability, then there's gonna just continue to be a lot of angst and confusion and pain and, and, you know, all sorts of symptoms resulting from that,” so says Satya Doyle Byock, psychotherapist and author of Quarterlife: The Search for Self in Early Adulthood. Satya has dedicated her career to influencing the way developmental psychology views and attends to “Quarterlifers”, or individuals between the ages of sixteen and thirty-six. Her incredible new book draws upon Jungian psychology, social justice advocacy, trauma-informed care, and historical research to provide readers with guideposts for this period of life, which has too long been ignored by popular culture and psychology, she argues.  Some quarterlifers, “stability types” as Satya calls them, have done everything “right” by society’s standards, yet remain unfulfilled and unclear on what to do next. “Meaning types”, at the other end of the spectrum, are not interested in the prescribed path, but feel as though they are drifting through life directionless. Some don’t want to participate in life at all. Our conversation explores this spectrum of being, setting to untangle the messy, uncharted path to wholeness as we engage with Satya’s four pillars of Quarterlife development, a powerful toolkit for young adults looking for a way through their psychological and existential crises. We talk about the cultural hazing cycle, young adults’ devotion to parental expectations, and the importance of developing our discernment muscle. So whether you are a young adult, or are simply seeking to understand the struggles of a generation, I hope our conversation leaves you eager to explore the ever-evolving balance between stability and meaning.    EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS: Meaning types vs. stability types…  Stuck in ambivalence.. Developing discernment… MORE FROM SATYA BYOCK: Quarterlife: The Search for Self in Early Adulthood Are You a Meaning Type or Stability Type? — Take the Quiz Satya's Website The Salomé Institute of Jungian Studies Follow Satya on Instagram To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hi, it's Elise Lunan host of Pulling the Thread.

0:03.4

Today's guest is Sacha Bayak, an incredible psychotherapist who focuses on people between the ages of 16 and 36,

0:10.5

who are in the midst of what she calls quarter life, a phase for which there's little language culturally.

0:17.0

And the framework she's devised, this group in the lobby of adulthood can often struggle between

0:22.4

meaning and stability as they try to find their way to the self. Hi friends, throughout this holiday

0:28.7

season, you will find me right here per normal. We will keep publishing new episodes every week

0:35.8

and a few solos thrown in as well. So when you just need

0:40.7

to escape from the business of the holiday shuffle or take a break from mom or dad or who knows who,

0:46.7

we'll be here as we always are. Hi, it's Elise Lunan, host of Pulling the Thread. I'm an author, podcast host and parent who built a long career in media. I grew up in a state of perpetual curiosity, investigating the world and asking a lot of questions.

1:13.9

In this show, I chat with culture-defining leaders, thinkers, and experts about this rare

1:19.2

moment that we find ourselves in and how to think about our own lives and experiences within a larger

1:24.9

social and spiritual construct.

1:30.3

The focus of adulthood has been on stability. Just, you know, find a job and don't leave it.

1:35.3

Find a partner and don't get divorced.

1:37.3

Have babies, you know, white picket fence.

1:39.3

The vision of adulthood has been so wedded to stability

1:42.3

that it was hard for me even in writing the book

1:45.6

and sorting this out to pull them apart. You know, that the understanding, full stop, is that

1:52.4

the goal of adulthood is to gain stability. And then midlife, we now understand people have to

1:59.1

search for meaning because there wasn't time for that prior.

2:01.6

And I'm trying to revise that and name what I think all of us have known for a long time, which is it just doesn't work that way.

2:07.6

It's not that easy.

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