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🗓️ 9 December 2024
⏱️ 70 minutes
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0:00.0 | Hello, I'm Dr. Stephen Hassan with another episode of the Influence Continuum. |
0:10.2 | And my guest today comes all the way from Down Under in Australia, Maria Esquera. |
0:18.8 | Did I say it correctly? |
0:20.1 | I hope. |
0:20.5 | I pray. Maria and I met together in Barcelona at a cult |
0:27.1 | conference, and I learned she's a psychologist. She supervises other psychologists, but for me, |
0:36.1 | what makes her so extraordinary is she was born and raised in one of the |
0:40.8 | most destructive cults I've ever worked in, the children of God. And I admire her so much, |
0:49.9 | and her dissertation was on social identity theory. I just recently listened to her little mini video on LinkedIn, |
1:00.1 | on positive behavior support for folks with disabilities, |
1:04.1 | which was spot on, and just awesome. |
1:07.9 | I'm a fan, Maria. |
1:09.6 | So why don't you introduce yourself to my audience and tell us about |
1:14.5 | your childhood and a little bit of your journey, please. Thank you. Yeah, thank you for that |
1:22.7 | lovely introduction. That means a lot to me. So I have only recently, I suppose, come out in the sense of, like, in the last two years, talking a little bit more about my experiences. |
1:36.2 | So this is very new to me. |
1:37.8 | I can feel the nerves. |
1:39.9 | And just like you were telling me, there was a little bit of shame around being a survivor and someone who grew or who's being in a cultic group, sometimes as a mental health professional or psychologists, sometimes you don't get a wonderful warm welcome when people hear that. |
1:57.3 | Sometimes there's even some discrimination, unfortunately, in stigma. So I've been |
2:03.5 | terrified after going through what I had to go through to get an education. So I've been, |
2:08.1 | you know, scared to talk about my history and story. And I think it's a lot of people who |
2:14.5 | either grow up or even join groups, they're scared that it's going to be seen the wrong way that there's something wrong with them mentally. |
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