Welcome back to the Federalist Radio Hour. I'm Joy Pullman, the executive editor over here at The Federalist. Joining me today, it's a pleasure to welcome one of our longtime senior contributors to the Federalist, Nathaniel Blake. He is not only a senior contributor with us for some time, but he's also a fellow at the wonderful Ethics and Public Policy Center and the

occasion for this podcast, the author of the new book, Victims of the Revolution, How Sexual

Liberation Harts Us All. Nathaniel, welcome. Thank you very much for having me. Thank you for

joining me. It's a pleasure to kind of have, I mean, we've had all these

email chats over the years, but it's such always different and even better to be kind of

in real time in person with such a long time correspondent. Would you, I thought it would be

helpful to our audience to ask you to start by defining the sexual revolution. I think, you know, there's so many ways that

people take it and apply it. So what kind of is your understanding and definition for, and then

the basis, you know, in which you go on to make your arguments? Well, you're right. It does tend to

be a little bit amorphous, but I would say sexual revolution,

as best as I can define it, is the idea and then the events flowing from that idea,

that human beings will be more fulfilled, more authentic, more happier, really, if we are freed

from the constraints and sexual taboos and the relationships of the past.

So we can hop in and out of beds, in and out of relationships, even in and out of genders, as we feel in order to pursue our desires.

And that that is the key to human well-being.

And I think the sexual revolution then is that being put into practice. Okay. So it's kind of core to that concept, would you say,

would be kind of the interchangeability of the sexes? Is that a core concept? Because I, yeah,

I'll start there. And then I have another

question that's related. Okay. Yeah, I think that was an important part of the sexual revolution

is the idea that men and women basically want more or less the same things to be free, to be accomplished, to have, you know,

relational freedom, economic freedom, and so on.

And that overlooks the fact that human reproduction is not symmetrical.

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