Nathan Barry: The Ladders of Wealth, How to Build a $40M Creator Business from Scratch | Entrepreneurship | E363

Young and Profiting with Hala Taha (Entrepreneurship, Sales, Marketing)

YAP Media Network

Education, Marketing, Entrepreneurship, Business, Self-improvement

4.8 • 1.3K Ratings

🗓️ 11 August 2025

⏱️ 84 minutes

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Summary

When the 2008 financial crisis nearly wiped out his freelance web design business, Nathan Barry began creating and selling digital products in search of more sustainable income. As his audience grew, he became frustrated with email tools that didn’t cater to creators like him. This frustration led to the creation of Kit, an email platform with over $40 million in annual revenue, designed specifically for creator entrepreneurs. In this episode, Nathan reveals the ladders of wealth creation, his proven email marketing strategies, and the secret to scaling a creator-led business. In this episode, Hala and Nathan will discuss: (00:00) Introduction (02:47) His Early Life and Entrepreneurial Roots (10:49) From Freelancing to Building a Startup (16:17) The Birth of Kit: Creating an Email Marketing Platform (21:59) Creator Entrepreneurship and the Flywheel Effect (35:17) The Four Ladders of Wealth Creation (48:16) The Power of Teaching Everything You Know (54:13) Bootstrapping Kit to a $40M+ Business (1:05:16) AI and the Future of the Creator Economy Nathan Barry is the founder and CEO of Kit, an email marketing platform serving over 63,000 creators, bloggers, and entrepreneurs, including Tim Ferriss, James Clear, and Andrew Huberman. He is an author, speaker, designer, and host of The Nathan Barry Show. Known for his transparent approach to entrepreneurship, Nathan is a leading voice in the creator economy. Sponsored By: Shopify - Start your $1/month trial at Shopify.com/profiting Indeed - Get a $75 sponsored job credit to boost your job's visibility at Indeed.com/PROFITING OpenPhone - Get 20% off your first 6 months at OpenPhone.com/profiting Airbnb - Find a co-host at airbnb.com/host Mercury - Streamline your banking and finances in one place. Learn more at ⁠⁠mercury.com/profiting⁠⁠ Policy Genius - Secure your family’s future with Policygenius. Head to policygenius.com/profiting Framer - Launch your site for free at Framer.com, and use code PROFITING Resources Mentioned: Nathan's Website: kit.com Nathan's Book, The App Design Handbook: bit.ly/TheAppDesign Nathan's Book, Designing Web Applications: bit.ly/DesigningWeb Nathan's Podcast, The Nathan Barry Show: bit.ly/TNBS-apple The Almanac of Naval Ravikant by Eric Jorgenson: bit.ly/AlmanacRavikant Active Deals - youngandprofiting.com/deals Key YAP Links Reviews - ratethispodcast.com/yap YouTube - youtube.com/c/YoungandProfiting LinkedIn - linkedin.com/in/htaha/ Instagram - instagram.com/yapwithhala/ Social + Podcast Services: yapmedia.com Transcripts - youngandprofiting.com/episodes-new Entrepreneurship, Entrepreneurship Podcast, Business, Business Podcast, Self Improvement, Self-Improvement, Personal Development, Starting a Business, Strategy, Investing, Sales, Selling, Psychology, Productivity, Entrepreneurs, AI, Artificial Intelligence, Technology, Marketing, Negotiation, Money, Finance, Side Hustle, Startup, Mental Health, Career, Leadership, Mindset, Health, Growth Mindset, Passive Income, Online Business, Solopreneur, Networking

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0:00.0	Today's episode is sponsored in part by Open Phone, Shopify, Mercury, Indeed, and Framer.
0:06.0	OpenFone is the number one business phone system. Build stronger customer relationships and respond faster with shared numbers, AI, and automations.
0:14.3	Get 20% off your first six months when you go to openphone.com slash profiting.
0:19.1	Shopify is the global commerce platform that helps you grow your
0:22.6	business. Sign up for a $1 per month trial period at Shopify.com slash profiting. Mercury
0:28.6	streamlines your banking and finances in one place so you can focus on growing your online business.
0:34.2	Learn more at mercury.com slash profiting. Attract interview and hire all in one place with Indeed.
0:39.9	Get a $75-sponsored job credit at Indeed.com.
0:43.2	Profiting. Terms and conditions apply.
0:46.0	Framer is the designed first, no-code website builder that lets anyone ship a production-ready site in just minutes.
0:52.8	Launch your site for free at framer.com and use code
0:55.9	profiting to get your first month of pro on the house. As always, you can find all of our incredible
1:00.7	deals in the show notes or at young and profiting.com slash deals. Everyone was selling me like social
1:06.3	media and all of this is going to drive the sales, but it's really emailed to drive the sales.
1:10.0	I made $12,000 in the first 24 hours.
1:13.5	Wow.
1:14.7	Nathan Berry, one of the most respected voices in the creator economy
1:18.5	and the brains behind Kit,
1:20.3	the software company that's powering over 50,000 creators,
1:23.7	including names like Tim Ferriss and James Clear.
1:26.8	What you think, the good and the bad of AI.
1:29.2	One thing that I'm worried about is AI taking out the bottom rung of every career ladder.
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