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I am simply thrilled to introduce my guest today, Nathan Barry.

Nathan, are you prepared to ignite?

Absolutely, let's do this.

Nathan is founder of ConvertKit, an email marketing company and is the author of the app design handbook.

Designing web apps and authority.

Given our listeners just a little overview, Nathan, so take a minute.

Tell us about you personally because we want to get to know you, then give us an overview of your business.

Yeah, so I'm a designer by trade.

I got into, you know, coding websites back in high school, picked up Photoshop and then designed websites professionally for a while.

Led the design team at a startup and then the latest incarnation of my business and career has been that I teach.

So I write, write books on design and marketing and I came out with a course just this last week on using Photoshop to design and software.

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