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The Tikvah Podcast

Natan Sharansky - "Defending Identity": Israel and the World

The Tikvah Podcast

Tikvah

Judaism, News, Politics, Religion & Spirituality

4.8658 Ratings

🗓️ 12 January 2015

⏱️ 100 minutes

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Summary

As part of Tikvah’s advanced institute “The Case for Nationalism,” the participants heard from the great Jewish dissident, thinker, and statesman, Natan Sharansky. Sharansky discussed the ideas of his book, Defending Identity: Its Indispensable Role in Protecting Democracy; the problem of a world with “nothing to die for,” to quote John Lennon; and the complementarity of the democratic desire to be free and the particularist desire to belong. Audience questions prompted Sharansky to analyze the source of the threats facing the Jews of Europe, the decline of Jewish identity in America, the so-called “Jewish state” bill then under discussion in Israel, and much else.

The event was recorded in Jerusalem on December 9, 2014.

Transcript

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0:00.0

It's a great honor to have this morning, Natan Sharanski joining us, and I will be completely

0:05.4

introduce him and get out of the way and let him conduct this class.

0:08.8

You've read a good chunk of his book on identity.

0:11.8

I read his book in 19 when it came out in America, the first book, Fear No Evil in 1988,

0:17.4

when he came out to the United States.

0:18.6

It made the impact on me, not on the

0:23.0

disease no introduction, obviously very courageous. I know he likes to be introduced as a

0:28.0

convicted criminal, but very courageous dissident in the Soviet Union released in

0:33.2

1986, came right away to Jerusalem. I remember meeting with his wife when I was working, came to Washington, worked in the administration

0:40.3

just before you were released, and then after you were released, and then the Vice President

0:43.7

Quayle when he came to visit in the late 80s and early 90s, served in the Israeli government,

0:50.3

obviously now heads of the Jewish agency, wrote two very important books, a book, Defending Democracy, and the book on identity as key to defending democracy. So it's extremely relevant to our course. But even if we're totally irrelevant to our course, it would be worth hearing from Natanz Sharansky. So we look forward to hearing from him. And you have as much time as you want. We usually take a break about halfway through,

1:11.6

but it's totally up to you.

1:13.6

Thank you.

1:16.6

Well, a few remarks.

1:18.6

First of all, I saw my biography as you presented.

1:22.6

It's totally wrong.

1:24.6

It's right.

1:25.6

They write that I have two grandchildren, I have five,

1:29.7

because things happen quickly in Israel.

1:35.4

Second, is it okay?

1:38.0

There is not much difference if I sit there,

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