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Today is July 3rd, 2020, and my guest is philosopher and author, now Symmdick Listoleb.

He is the author of the Encherto, his collection of books, antifragil, The Black Swan,

fooled by randomness, the better procrusties, skin in the game.

This is his ninth appearance on econ talk.

It was here last in March of 2018 talking about rationality, risk, and skin in the game.

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Now Symm, welcome back to econ talk.

Yeah, thanks again for inviting me.

And one little detail, I'm not technically a philosopher, I'm from someone interested in probability.

Yeah.

So whatever field is attached to that would be my field, but not quite philosophy.

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