Here at Straight White American Jesus, we discuss Christian nationalism and racism often on the show.

But an important new book points out that the hidden roots of white supremacy can be found in a little known but powerful Christian doctrine

developed five centuries ago in the wake of the discovery of the so-called New World.

And it convincingly shows that understanding this history sheds new light on the menace of Christian nationalism in contemporary America.

Many of you will be familiar with Robert P. Jones as the founder of PRRI and the author of two previous books, White Too Long and the End of White, Christian America.

His new book is the hidden roots of white supremacy and the path to a shared American future.

It is a compelling historical analysis of the roots of white supremacy that shows the connections between the lynching of three black circus workers in Duluth and the mass execution of 38 Dakota men in Mancato.

Between the murder of 300 African Americans during the burning of Black Wall Street and Tulsa and the Trail of Tears.

Between the murder of Emmett Till and the Spanish conquistador Hernando de Soto in the Mississippi Delta.

By excavating this history and telling the powerful stories of people reckoning with it today, Jones illuminates the possibility of a new American future in which we finally fulfill the promise of a pluralistic democracy.

The hidden roots of white supremacy and the path to a shared American future by Robert P. Jones is out now from Simon & Schuster.

Check the show notes for a special link to the book.

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In Jesus, my name is Brad O'Neill, faculty at the University of San Francisco, our shows hosted a partnership with the Cap Center, UCSB.

And guess what folks we have someone who's back who you all know who's now a kind of.

You know, we had to get him away from the paparazzi and others just bothering him in a secure location unknown to the public so we could record this.

And that is Dr. Matthew Taylor. So Matt, how you doing?

I'm doing well, Brad. The secure location is the basement of my house. So I guess I gave it away a little.

Just ruined it. You're not used to being famous. Okay. Well, we're going to have to, you know, I'll text your security guy.

Well, you all know Dr. Taylor from just the overwhelmingly incredible charismatic revival theory series that we did here on stray white JC.

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