Today, we're breaking down one of the most troubling developments in the Nancy Guthrie case.

Reports that two of the ransom notes may have actually been real.

If that's true, this case changes dramatically.

But here's the problem.

Early investigative mistakes are compromised crime scene and critical loss time may have already given the suspect a massive advantage.

The question is, can modern DNA technology and investigative genetic genealogy still bring this case back from the brink welcome to police off

the cuff real crime series i'm bill cannon retired nypd sergeant today we're going deep into the

nancy guthrie investigation not speculation not rumored what the investigative process tells us

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So folks, hold on to your hats,

hold on to your loved ones, hold on to your thoughts, hold on to your cup of coffee, hold on to your service dog. You're about to enter true crime from a police perspective. You're about to

enter the off-the-cuff zone. The police off the cuff zone.

They were the ones who called 911 to get him help,

and now they're calling for change.

You know, it's disturbing.

So many things that we've heard in this investigation, all of the mistakes in this investigation,

and one of the most important things, of course, and we don't hear much about it right now,

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