This is Hidden Killers Live with Tony Bruske, Stacey Cole, and Todd Michaels.

We've talked about the suspect. We've talked about the investigative failures. Now we need to talk about where this actually goes.

That male DNA profile from the glove that matches or may match a suspect. We don't know. And if it's going to be

in Kodis's system, they're looking at that. The FBI cellular analysis survey team has been

mapping now apparently every phone that pinged towers near Nancy Guthrie's home during the

relevant time windows. We've got the Walmart purchase records that I'm sure are going to be looked at right now for

those those backpacks.

Robin Drake retired FBI Special Agent, Chief of the Counterintelligence Behavioral Analysis

Program is with us to keep breaking this down.

When we're looking at this, Nanos has confirmed that investigators, they've taken

cheek swabs from different individuals that they've talked to along the way, meaning they

have some DNA samples from people of interest. That could show something. What are we looking

for here in terms of finding solid evidence

at at this point and let's go back to that glove for a moment that from what we understood

matches the physical description of the glove that was worn on that video that That's a pretty broad brush to paint with.

The matches the physical, it was a black and white,

and it appeared there was some sort of latex or rubber texture

over another glove.

I don't know how exactly you go two miles down the road and go,

this must be it.

I mean, and, and how do we know how, I guess, how do we know its value? How do we know that that one, that one that was found two miles down the road is the one that needs to be sent to Cotas? Why is that one more valuable than the other 16? I mean, I guess you could figure like, oh, these ones were the ones we bought to look around. But just, okay, so it's a glove that doesn't match the ones the investigators were using. Is that it? Is that what it? Well, it's not the one the investigators are using and it was in two mile radius of the house, a rubber glove on the side of the road. So that's the part. So it's those little data points that are keeping me on the glass half full side of this. So just the way you described it, Tony, isn't it amazing that they found a glove two miles down the road? I don't know, Robin, because I feel like you and me could go for a walk right now and probably find a handful of rubber glove clubs at any random time. Just just going for a walk for a few miles.

So here's what they're doing from what I understand is. And so this, what they're doing is,

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